Tie Rod Replacement

My Hyunda dealer told me I needed an alignment on my Santa Fe. When diagnosing a problem I have he said my Tie Rod need replacement. He wants to charge me for the alignment. I said that I thought an alignment had to be done when replacing the Tie Rod. He told me not true on a Hyundai. I called another dealer and they said an alignment has to be done when you replace the tie rod. Which dealer is correct?

My car has 38500 miles.
My car has an automatic transmission.

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Hi there. I believe what you are hearing from both dealers are what has recently been referred to as "alternative facts". Here is the truth. A suspension alignment is an inspection and adjustment of all the mechanical components that comprise the front end suspension system. Each part needs to be properly "aligned" in order to ensure the tires contact the ground equally for maximum efficiency, handling, braking and performance. The tie rods on ANY vehicle are a part of the suspension system and are often the root cause of a suspension becoming out of alignment. Anytime you replace any suspension component, a suspension alignment SHOULD be completed. So, if the original mechanic completed an alignment on your car and determined the tie rod was damaged and needed repair, the "service" of the alignment check was performed; and should be charged. If it were my shop, I would not have charged for (2) alignments; only one. However, each shop or dealership has different policies. Hope that clarifies the issue.

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When your tie rods go bad, the symptom you`re most likely to experience first is a vibration or shaking sensation in your steering wheel. You may also hear associated clunking and rattling noises, especially when turning the vehicle at low speeds. These sounds are caused by tie rods that are starting to wear out.
While it may not be absolutely necessary to replace both tie rods at the same time, many mechanics may recommend a varying combination of replacement parts. If you are changing an inner tie-rod, and the outer tie-rod is an original part, it is recommended to change both.
Typically, it costs around $185 to $305 in total, with the new tie rod part costing about $40 to $120 and labor costing around $145 to $185. However, cost estimates can vary from vehicle to vehicle as well as based on which tie rod needs replacement. Tie rods have two parts — the inner tie rod and the outer tie rod.
You cannot drive with broken tie rods. You may be able to drive for a short time on worn tie rods, but this is not a viable long-term option. Eventually, the part will break and you`ll need to replace it. If you wait until it breaks at high speed, you`ll be in a dangerous and costly situation.
Tie rods can last for several years. In fact, you may never have to replace your tie rods. The conditions you drive in play a large role in the lifespan of tie rods.
While some suspension work is best left to the pros, tie rods are easily replaceable on most vehicles. Signs that you need to replace your tie rods include: front-end shimmy.
Cars will typically have two tie rod ends on each side: one inner tie rod end and one outer tie rod end — four total with a set of two per side.
Outright tie rod failure when it breaks will lead to steering loss and possibly a fatal accident. A good mechanic can tell that tie rod ends are bad during routine inspection by jacking up the front axle and shaking the wheel while holding it at nine and three o`clock positions.
An outer tie rod end is connected to each front wheel spindle, and an inner tie rod end is connected to the steering rack or steering gear box assembly. As your steering wheel is turned, a shaft connects the steering wheel to a steering gear assembly – either a steering gear box or rack and pinion gear mechanism.
Tie rods are a vital part of the steering system on many modern cars. They connect your vehicle`s steering rack to its wheels and allow you to turn your car with the steering wheel.
Hovering Front End

Another tell-tale sign of a failing strut is a loose front end or if your car seems to veer to one side. If you`re having trouble keeping your steering aligned on the road, it`s definitely time to take the car into an automotive center.

In your vehicle, there are two types of tie rods – an inner tie rod and an outer tie rod.
Bad ball joints and tie rods can show up as vibrations during braking or turning. Also, a defective CV joint can cause car shakes at high speeds or while braking.
If there is excessive movement or any free play, you should have your tie rods checked. You can also check for bad tie rod ends. When your vehicle is parked, turn your steering wheel back and forth, and if you hear a clunking noise, your tie rod ends may be loose or worn.
If there is excessive movement or any free play, you should have your tie rods checked. You can also check for bad tie rod ends. When your vehicle is parked, turn your steering wheel back and forth, and if you hear a clunking noise, your tie rod ends may be loose or worn.
If there is excessive movement or any free play, you should have your tie rods checked. You can also check for bad tie rod ends. When your vehicle is parked, turn your steering wheel back and forth, and if you hear a clunking noise, your tie rod ends may be loose or worn.

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Tie Rod Replacement
ANSWER : Hi there. I believe what you are hearing from both dealers are what has recently been referred to as "alternative facts". Here is the truth. A suspension alignment is an inspection and adjustment of all the mechanical components that comprise the front end suspension system. Each part needs to be properly "aligned" in order to ensure the tires contact the ground equally for maximum efficiency, handling, braking and performance. The tie rods on ANY vehicle are a part of the suspension system and are often the root cause of a suspension becoming out of alignment. Anytime you replace any suspension component, a suspension alignment SHOULD be completed. So, if the original mechanic completed an alignment on your car and determined the tie rod was damaged and needed repair, the "service" of the alignment check was performed; and should be charged. If it were my shop, I would not have charged for (2) alignments; only one. However, each shop or dealership has different policies. Hope that clarifies the issue.

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How to remove inner tie rod ends can’t seem to find hex engraving 4 spanner or socket set to twist Off inner tie rod off steering
ANSWER : You are correct, there is no hex pattern machined into the component. There is a special tool that can be used to remove the inner tie rods. Sometimes you can get a large wrench to work. There are only two flat surfaces, 180 degrees apart from each other, machined into the inner tie rods. I have also used a pipe wrench before, but the special tool makes it much easier. You may find loaner tools at you local parts store. If you would like, a certified technician from YourMechanic can come to your car’s location to replace the tie rod end for you.

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If one tie rod is bad on my 2005 Toyota Camry do I need to replace both of them.
ANSWER : Hello. Though it is good to have balance in your steering system and it is good practice to replace parts on both sides at the same time, you do not need to do that. You onlt need to replace the part that is actually faulty. Once it is replaced the vehicle will need to be aligned. If you are going to have this tie rod replaced, consider YourMechanic, as a certified mechanic can come to you to [replace your tie rod] https://www.yourmechanic.com/services/tie-rod-end-replacement

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Torn lower ball joints and torn tie rods – 2006 Nissan Sentra
ANSWER : Hi there. Unfortunately, diagnosing what type of service may have been performed by a different mechanic without physically inspecting the vehicle is difficult, as is knowing how long your vehicle can be driven with worn out ball joints and tie rods. The problem with worn out suspension parts is that they can fail and break, which can cause an unsafe driving situation.

It might be a better idea to have a professional mechanic, such as one from YourMechanic, come to your location to inspect all the front end components for damage and give you an idea as to how much longer you can drive your vehicle before you must replace the damaged parts or buy a new vehicle.

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Can the tie rods on a 2011 Nissan Juke be replaced without replacing the entire power steering system?
ANSWER : The tie rod ends for your vehicle, both the inner and the outer ends, are available for separate purchase. If you bought these tie rod ends yourself from an auto parts store, they’re "roughly" $50 each or $200 in total if you bought all four (your vehicle has a total of four). It would be unusual (indeed, exceptional) for tie rod ends to fail on a Nissan with only 36,000 miles on it. If you have a problem with the car, I suggest you get it evaluated by a TRUSTWORTHY, knowledgeable individual. A vehicle with 36,000 miles on it is frankly a brand new vehicle and to be in need of thousands of dollars worth of repairs would be unusual, excepting a circumstance where the vehicle was in a collision, abused, or otherwise damaged. If you have a steering issue, please simply request a steering system evaluation/diagnostic and the responding certified mechanic will thoroughly evaluate your vehicle, address your concerns and give you the information you need about any required repairs. If you have further questions or concerns, do not hesitate to re-contact YourMechanic as we are always here to help you.

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Tie Rod End Replacement
ANSWER : Hello,
It sounds like the rack and pinion may have been damaged during the process of replacing the tie rods. If you are leaking power steering fluid, I would recommend having the rack and pinion checked. It is also very likely that the alignment was not done properly if the wheel is touching something while it is rotating. I would strongly recommend taking your vehicle back to the facility that serviced it last and ask them to recheck their work. It is very likely that any repairs performed from this point will be covered under warranty. If your vehicle leaves the shop in worse condition than it came in, it is almost always the mechanics fault. If the shop gives you any grief, I would recommend consulting with an attorney.

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Can I get cheap outer tie rods to last me one year
ANSWER : If you decide to get tie rods from an aftermarket supplier they should be good enough quality to last more than a year. They should meet or exceed factory specifications.

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I replaced a tie rod end on the driver side of my ’95 nissan altima the other day. Now when I go around any curve the car makes a
ANSWER : Hi there. It is very likely that the suspension is misaligned which is causing the issues you’re having with the Nissan Altima. Anytime you remove any suspension component, the front end alignment falls out of calibration. This problem gets worse when a new component is installed only on one side (as you’ve indicated in the question above). Tie rods should always be replaced on both sides to reduce the potential of dangerous situations as you have indicated. Once the service has been completed, it’s vital to also have the suspension professionally aligned by a suspension alignment shop. I would take your vehicle to have the alignment checked and set as soon as possible; as they will also be able to tell you if something is not properly installed.

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