Car will not start intermittently while in PARK but always starts on NEUTRAL.

I will give a brief chronology of my problems over the last 6 weeks and hopefully I can get a recommendation on what to do next.

On August 1, car will not start on PARK, all lights on but no cranking. AAA came checked out battery fine.
Later car started on PARK. I dropped off the car at Pep Boys
Pep Boys checked it out and decided I needed a new starter. Starter replaced.
Drove car for a couple of days and same problems with starting on PARK. Towed car to Pep Boys but problem could not be duplicated.
Drove car a couple of days and same problems with starting on PARK. Towed car to another rep

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Hi there, thank you for writing in and providing a detailed description. I’d be happy to give my insight on what to do next.

I would make the same conclusion about the neutral safety switch. I think Pep Boys made the right call. I admit, I don’t like to call a part bad without being able to duplicate the problem, but anytime a customer states their car starts in neutral but not park, we replace the neutral safety switch. I can’t recall a time that this move was wrong.

The intermittent nature of your problem does’t change this diagnosis either. The same electrical connection can work one moment and not the next. Electricity works at the atomic level that we as humans can’t directly observe, which is why we have tools to do electrical testing. Your tow truck driver got it correct.

Hope this helps and best of luck! If you’d like help replacing your neutral safety switch, consider having one of our expert automotive technicians come to your home or office to do it for you.

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A problem with the transmission range switch connector or wiring can also cause the same issue. Symptoms of of both of these problem is when the “P” indicator on the dash sometimes doesn`t light up when the transmission in Park or you have to shift it back and forth a few times before the “P” indicator lights up.
Why does my car start only when it is in neutral? If it`s a manual transmission, it`s because it has a “neutral switch” that only allows it to star that way. It was added after some cars moved forward unexpectedly when they had been left in gear and the ignition key turned.
Another possible symptom of bad neutral safety switches is that the engine might not start in neutral mode but starts in park mode. In such a scenario, the neutral switch is either facing the failure of an internal component where it is using only one gear not the other.
Bad Sensors

One common culprit for this problem is the crankshaft position sensor, which measures the position and speed of the crankshaft. The computer uses the information from this sensor to know when to fire the spark plugs. If the sensor isn`t working, the spark plugs won`t fire, keeping the engine from starting.

Common signs of a faulty neutral safety switch include the engine not cranking in park or neutral, not cranking at all, or cranking in any gear.
The transmission position sensor, also known as a neutral safety switch, is an important component in the transmission system of your car. It is responsible for providing information to the engine control module about the gear position of the transmission.
If the Park/Neutral Safety Switch fails to operate properly, code P084F will be set. The engine may be disabled from starting. A vehicle with this code should be taken in to a repair shop for diagnosis.
The crankshaft position sensor monitors the position and speed of the crankshaft and other parameters that play an important role when starting the engine. If the crankshaft position sensor is having a problem, the vehicle may have intermittent starting issues or not start at all.
The neutral safety switch is a safety feature that prevents the engine from starting when the transmission or transaxle is in gear. When the switch fails, the engine may not crank or it may start in gear.
The neutral safety switch is built into the transmission selector switch, and the power from the ignition switch goes straight through the switch when you are in park and neutral to the starter motor solenoid. There is no good reason to bypass the selector switch since the vehicle may start and run in any gear.
Park is used to keep your vehicle stationary, Reverse is used to back up the vehicle, Neutral is used if you ever need to push or pull your car without the engine being engaged, and Drive is used for everyday travel movement.
An automatic transmission vehicle has a “park” gear, but your stick shift car doesn`t. With a manual vehicle, always set the parking brake before you leave the car. After you park, you should normally put the car in first gear if it isn`t already there. However, if the car is pointing downhill, shift into reverse.
Car Will Not Start: Over time, as the camshaft position sensor fails, the signal it sends to the engine control module weakens. When the engine no longer receives the signal, you will not be able to start your car.
Why won`t my car start but I have power? If you attempt to start up your car but the engine won`t turn over and the dashboard lights up, then you most likely have an issue with your battery. You could have a damaged or corroded battery terminal, which is stopping the engine from starting up when you fully turn the key.
your car fails to start: the engine`s computer uses the map sensor to gauge atmospheric pressure before the engine is started. a false reading could cause too much or too little fuel to be delivered to the engine. both conditions could keep it from firing up.
The average cost for a Neutral Safety Switch Replacement is between $183 and $201. Labor costs are estimated between $65 and $82 while parts are priced between $118 and $118.
The neutral safety switch will not allow the car to start unless the car is in park or neutral. This switch is located on top of the transmission.
Turn off your vehicle`s ignition and wait patiently for 5 to 10 seconds. Start the engine and allow it to idle for several seconds. Switch off the ignition and wait patiently for another 30 to 40 seconds. Repeat these steps 2 to 3 times in order to reset your vehicle`s transmission control module.
A car has two speed sensors: the ISS and the OSS, working together to show the transmission data to the car`s powertrain module. The ISS sensor monitors the input shaft`s speed. If these sensors get misaligned, the operation of the transmission system will be affected.
Neutral wire always carry a return current in the normal conditions in the AC circuit. Earth wire does not carry any electric current under normal condition, it carries current only when there is a fault in the device. The standard color for neutral wire is black. The color of earth wire is green or green-yellow.
The live wire of domestic circuits is usually red and is at high voltage. The neutral wire is black and has voltage close to that of the ground. The potential difference between these two wires in India is about 220 V. The earth or ground wire provides safety against faults and current leaks.
Mass Air Flow Sensor

The Mass airflow sensor or MAF is one of the most crucial sensors used in automobiles. The MAF sensor is located near the air filter and monitors how much air is flowing into the engine.

If you`re ever riding on the highway and smell something harsh from your car, that could be a quick sign that your O2 sensor is failing. If you ever begin to pick up on some changes like bad powertrain performance, engine misfires, or loud noises, that could be a symptom of your O2 sensor probably having issues.
For optimum accuracy, it is generally located in the transmission, close to the sub-system, that selects and engages the gears.

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Car will not start intermittently while in PARK but always starts on NEUTRAL.
ANSWER : Hi there, thank you for writing in and providing a detailed description. I’d be happy to give my insight on what to do next.

I would make the same conclusion about the neutral safety switch. I think Pep Boys made the right call. I admit, I don’t like to call a part bad without being able to duplicate the problem, but anytime a customer states their car starts in neutral but not park, we replace the neutral safety switch. I can’t recall a time that this move was wrong.

The intermittent nature of your problem does’t change this diagnosis either. The same electrical connection can work one moment and not the next. Electricity works at the atomic level that we as humans can’t directly observe, which is why we have tools to do electrical testing. Your tow truck driver got it correct.

Hope this helps and best of luck! If you’d like help replacing your neutral safety switch, consider having one of our expert automotive technicians come to your home or office to do it for you.

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