Tie Rod End Replacement

I recently had both tie rods replaced on a Hyundai Santa Fe AWD. After the alignment was done, I am still noticing the same issues I had before the repairs were done (play in steering, clunk sound when turning or going over bumps, vibration at speeds above 60mph, front end wobble, pulling to the left). I also notice a grinding type noise when turning left and the tie rod on that side looks like something has been scraping at it. I also noticed the tire on that side seems to be touching the inner frame when turned all the way to the left.
I also started experiencing a whine when turning and
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It sounds like the rack and pinion may have been damaged during the process of replacing the tie rods. If you are leaking power steering fluid, I would recommend having the rack and pinion checked. It is also very likely that the alignment was not done properly if the wheel is touching something while it is rotating. I would strongly recommend taking your vehicle back to the facility that serviced it last and ask them to recheck their work. It is very likely that any repairs performed from this point will be covered under warranty. If your vehicle leaves the shop in worse condition than it came in, it is almost always the mechanics fault. If the shop gives you any grief, I would recommend consulting with an attorney.

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When your tie rods go bad, the symptom you`re most likely to experience first is a vibration or shaking sensation in your steering wheel. You may also hear associated clunking and rattling noises, especially when turning the vehicle at low speeds. These sounds are caused by tie rods that are starting to wear out.
If you have rack and pinion-type inner and outer tie rods, you can often remove and replace them without upsetting the vehicle`s alignment specs. However, you will need to have an alignment done after replacing the outer tie rods. You should still try to keep the alignment specs in line as much as possible.
Yes, while steering low speed, bumps and potholes it makes a clunking noise. Keep in mind it`s highly recommended to perform an whee alignment after replacing tie rod ends to ensure a straight wheel.
Tie Rods: A clunking noise when turning typically means there`s a loose or broken tie rod. Sway Bar Link: With a failing sway bar link, you will not only notice a knocking noise while you are turning but also poor handling.
Another consequence of overtightening is that the castle nut on the ball joint or tie rod ends up going past the hole for the cotter pin (as shown in image C). When the nut goes past the hole, the cotter pin won`t fit. Many installers think they need washers to correct the issue.
We recommend replacing both the inner and outer tie rod together as a set. You can run into issues like a worn or loose nut, stripped threads, or a worn or torn boot that can cause problems while driving.
The front-end clunking noise you hear when driving over a road bump means that a part of the suspension is faulty or malfunctioning. Get your mechanic to look out for or check the mentioned parts to ensure the clunking noise stops, or do it yourself if you are confident in your tinkering abilities.
Worn rod ends and bent tie rods can cause the telltale signs of death wobble: steering wheel shake, chassis vibration, and wandering. A good tie rod will have adequate rotational movement at the joint but will not have any up-and-down or side-to-side play.
The outer tie rods connect the power steering system to the wheels. These tie rods are ball joints but they are not the “ball joints” people commonly know (just the same style joint, but different part). This ball can dry out and when it does it will make a popping noise when the ball rotates inside of its joint.
When installing the tie rod end nut into the knuckle, it is important to torque the nut to manufacturer specs and avoid overtightening the nut. If the nut is overtorqued, it will deform the knuckle.
The outer tie rods connect the power steering system to the wheels. These tie rods are ball joints but they are not the “ball joints” people commonly know (just the same style joint, but different part). This ball can dry out and when it does it will make a popping noise when the ball rotates inside of its joint.
Worn rod ends and bent tie rods can cause the telltale signs of death wobble: steering wheel shake, chassis vibration, and wandering. A good tie rod will have adequate rotational movement at the joint but will not have any up-and-down or side-to-side play.
Bad Tires/Bad Left Tire – A knocking sound may be heard when tires go bad, if they are unbalanced or misaligned, or if there is a broken belt in one of the tires. Wheel Bearings – If a wheel bearing is severely worn out the wheel will not be able to spin freely. This may cause a knocking sound to be heard.

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How to remove inner tie rod ends can’t seem to find hex engraving 4 spanner or socket set to twist Off inner tie rod off steering
ANSWER : You are correct, there is no hex pattern machined into the component. There is a special tool that can be used to remove the inner tie rods. Sometimes you can get a large wrench to work. There are only two flat surfaces, 180 degrees apart from each other, machined into the inner tie rods. I have also used a pipe wrench before, but the special tool makes it much easier. You may find loaner tools at you local parts store. If you would like, a certified technician from YourMechanic can come to your car’s location to replace the tie rod end for you.

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Tie Rod End Replacement
ANSWER : Hello,
It sounds like the rack and pinion may have been damaged during the process of replacing the tie rods. If you are leaking power steering fluid, I would recommend having the rack and pinion checked. It is also very likely that the alignment was not done properly if the wheel is touching something while it is rotating. I would strongly recommend taking your vehicle back to the facility that serviced it last and ask them to recheck their work. It is very likely that any repairs performed from this point will be covered under warranty. If your vehicle leaves the shop in worse condition than it came in, it is almost always the mechanics fault. If the shop gives you any grief, I would recommend consulting with an attorney.

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Tie Rod Replacement
ANSWER : Hi there. I believe what you are hearing from both dealers are what has recently been referred to as "alternative facts". Here is the truth. A suspension alignment is an inspection and adjustment of all the mechanical components that comprise the front end suspension system. Each part needs to be properly "aligned" in order to ensure the tires contact the ground equally for maximum efficiency, handling, braking and performance. The tie rods on ANY vehicle are a part of the suspension system and are often the root cause of a suspension becoming out of alignment. Anytime you replace any suspension component, a suspension alignment SHOULD be completed. So, if the original mechanic completed an alignment on your car and determined the tie rod was damaged and needed repair, the "service" of the alignment check was performed; and should be charged. If it were my shop, I would not have charged for (2) alignments; only one. However, each shop or dealership has different policies. Hope that clarifies the issue.

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If one tie rod is bad on my 2005 Toyota Camry do I need to replace both of them.
ANSWER : Hello. Though it is good to have balance in your steering system and it is good practice to replace parts on both sides at the same time, you do not need to do that. You onlt need to replace the part that is actually faulty. Once it is replaced the vehicle will need to be aligned. If you are going to have this tie rod replaced, consider YourMechanic, as a certified mechanic can come to you to [replace your tie rod] https://www.yourmechanic.com/services/tie-rod-end-replacement

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Torn lower ball joints and torn tie rods – 2006 Nissan Sentra
ANSWER : Hi there. Unfortunately, diagnosing what type of service may have been performed by a different mechanic without physically inspecting the vehicle is difficult, as is knowing how long your vehicle can be driven with worn out ball joints and tie rods. The problem with worn out suspension parts is that they can fail and break, which can cause an unsafe driving situation.

It might be a better idea to have a professional mechanic, such as one from YourMechanic, come to your location to inspect all the front end components for damage and give you an idea as to how much longer you can drive your vehicle before you must replace the damaged parts or buy a new vehicle.

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Can the tie rods on a 2011 Nissan Juke be replaced without replacing the entire power steering system?
ANSWER : The tie rod ends for your vehicle, both the inner and the outer ends, are available for separate purchase. If you bought these tie rod ends yourself from an auto parts store, they’re "roughly" $50 each or $200 in total if you bought all four (your vehicle has a total of four). It would be unusual (indeed, exceptional) for tie rod ends to fail on a Nissan with only 36,000 miles on it. If you have a problem with the car, I suggest you get it evaluated by a TRUSTWORTHY, knowledgeable individual. A vehicle with 36,000 miles on it is frankly a brand new vehicle and to be in need of thousands of dollars worth of repairs would be unusual, excepting a circumstance where the vehicle was in a collision, abused, or otherwise damaged. If you have a steering issue, please simply request a steering system evaluation/diagnostic and the responding certified mechanic will thoroughly evaluate your vehicle, address your concerns and give you the information you need about any required repairs. If you have further questions or concerns, do not hesitate to re-contact YourMechanic as we are always here to help you.

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How much would an estimate be on fixing both inner and outer tie rod ends?
ANSWER : If you have already obtained a conclusive diagnostic and, on the basis of that, want to replace only the tie rod ends, you can obtain the written quote that you have requested, and schedule the repair to suit your needs, by visiting YourMechanic’s tie rod end replacement service page. Once on that page, please click on "Get a Quote" and enter your vehicle information (year, make, model).

Prior to replacing any part, it is best to fully understand why the failure is occurring and the full extent of the failure. Proceeding that way will save you needless expense, aggravation and surprises. For instance, if you have failing tie rod ends as well as perhaps a binding strut bearing, or a power steering fault (you mention difficulty steering), or a problem with the rack and pinion unit, changing the tie rods ends is really not going to fully resolve your issue. If you have not already obtained a thorough and professional diagnostic, the best thing to do is obtain that first and then once you have all information make a decision about how to proceed. If you want to go the diagnostic route first, please simply request a steering system inspection. The mechanic can then give you a complete account and you can act on the basis of that. If you have further questions or concerns as you decide what to do, do not hesitate to re-contact YourMechanic because we want you to make the most of your repair dollars and help you get the best possible results.

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I replaced a tie rod end on the driver side of my ’95 nissan altima the other day. Now when I go around any curve the car makes a
ANSWER : Hi there. It is very likely that the suspension is misaligned which is causing the issues you’re having with the Nissan Altima. Anytime you remove any suspension component, the front end alignment falls out of calibration. This problem gets worse when a new component is installed only on one side (as you’ve indicated in the question above). Tie rods should always be replaced on both sides to reduce the potential of dangerous situations as you have indicated. Once the service has been completed, it’s vital to also have the suspension professionally aligned by a suspension alignment shop. I would take your vehicle to have the alignment checked and set as soon as possible; as they will also be able to tell you if something is not properly installed.

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